Revenge for West Ham and redemption for Mark Noble, Ronald Koeman is doing fine at Barcelona - The Warm-Up
There will be no quadruple for Manchester United this season, in case you were worried about that playing out. West Ham are still on for the treble though. Elsewhere, Ronald Koeman is doing just fine at Barcelona, thank you for not asking. And Juventus have finally got themselves a victory in Serie A, bless them.
Mark Noble of West Ham United celebrates with team mates after the Carabao Cup Third Round match between Manchester United and West Ham United at Old Trafford
But this being the League Cup, both managers did their best to disrupt any sense of continuity by picking totally different teams. For Manchester United, this meant an even more disjointed performance than usual. For West Ham, this meant 90 minutes of Mark Noble, not 90 seconds. And for anybody watching on TV, it meant the lingering suspicion that all the really fun games were happening somewhere else.
West Ham were the better team for approximately 10 minutes, and made sure to get a goal out of it. Manchester United were on top for the rest of the game, but their long shots went high and wide and their passing moves foundered. They had 27 shots in all, along with an xG of "yeah, probably should have scored one of those". West Ham defended stoutly, Alphonse Areola threw himself about with effective abandon. Hey, Wolves came back from two goals down against Spurs.
That all makes it sound like the home team were laying siege to West Ham's goal, which isn't quite correct. It was more like those awkward moments — late, a little tipsy — when the key just will not go in the lock. Anthony Martial will probably get the main share of the blame, but in truth he played exactly as might be expected for a man who has watched his employer get other people in to do his job, repeatedly, with great fanfare and at great expense. Oh look, Chelsea and Villa went to penalties.
Of course, while Noble stole the show right at the end, the real player of the match last weekend was VAR. And the all-seeing-eye of the ref-in-the-box took centre stage here, too, despite the League Cup not actually using the thing. First Noble dragged Jesse Lingard to the ground in the box, to nothing more than a smile from Jon Moss. Then Nemanja Matić kneed Vladimir Coufal in the groin.
Why did he do this? It wasn't a nasty match. There didn't seem to be any running battle between the two. We can assume, from Coufal's response — surprise, rather than earth-shattering pain — that there wasn't much contact, that Matić didn't fully commit. Having given the matter some thought, we can only assume that this was the frustrated gesture of a man who'd rather have been watching the Tottenham game.
Yesterday, our very own Marcus Foley concluded his section on Barcelona by asking:
What will Wednesday bring? More turmoil probably and maybe the sacking of Ronald Koeman.
He was spot on about the turmoil. And while we didn't get the sacking, you sense that's just a matter of time. As befits the world's most luxury crisis club, Barcelona's road to the inevitable is going to be elaborate and very, very silly.
'Thank you' - Watch the moment Koeman walks out of press conference
We don't meant to be churlish, but Koeman's missed an opportunity here. Having decided to go down the No Questions route, Koeman gave himself the chance to say something properly controversial. "Joan Laporta, show us your medals," perhaps. Or "Have you seen the state of our kit? No wonder we're playing like clowns." But no, it was all "patience" and "support" and "time" and "perspective". Boring.
Still, if the content wasn't exactly sizzling, the fact of the matter is that Barcelona's manager doesn't want to answer questions about Barcelona because there aren't any good answers. At least, not for him, stuck as he is with a boss who didn't appoint him and doesn't rate him, and a squad with a giant Messi-shaped hole in the middle. And what will Thursday bring? Defeat to Cádiz, possibly, and maybe the sacking of Ronald Koeman.
Points-wise, this officially ends Juventus' miserable start to the season and gives them a big shiny "1" in the wins column. Performance-wise … hmmm. Coming back from 2-1 down says all kinds of positive things about character and commitment, and that's good, right? Federico Chiesa was good: that's good, right?
On the not good side of things: defending. The whole concept of defending. The total absence of the whole concept of defending. Spezia came back from 1-0 down with baffling ease and will be disappointed not to have added a third. And there's probably something important in that disappointment. It's not just that Juventus are vulnerable at the back, it's that everybody knows it.
The aura is gone. This was a scrappy comeback. and ultimately a successful and admirable one. But at no point did it feel inevitable. Time was, not too long ago, when Juventus taking the lead meant you could think about changing the channel. Now, for the neutral and for the opposition, it's when things start to get exciting.
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Cádiz vs. Barcelona, which could be the last act of Ronald Koeman's time in charge. There's a few Serie A games as well, including Roma vs. Udinese.
Tomorrow's Warm-Up will be brought to you by Andi Thomas, who will not be taking questions at this time.